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Welcome to “Voices,” our public forum where horsemen and horsewomen are able to share their thoughts and concerns about the important issues facing the Thoroughbred racing and breeding industry. All opinions are welcome, and we value yours!

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Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


From this morning’s paper I see that Zenyatta is being prepared to go to the breeding shed. Apparently they have not decided on a farm or stallion for this first mating. Well, Storm Cat is unavailable to Thoroughbred mares and is only used to breed Quarter Horse mares by “artificial insemination,” and at a fee of $25,000. Because of the stupid AI rule that the Jockey Club says is important this great stallion is of no further value to the TB industry.

 

And from Don’s post I recall that Clement Hirsch did own a pet-food company. Matter of fact it used to be said by trainers when speaking of horses that just couldn’t compete, that their next out might be in the Kal-Kan Futurity if they could get the owners to make the payment.

 

I do agree that it isn’t very appealing.

November 13, 2009
9:26 a.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


“Why didn’t you just take your wanna-be Rodney Dangerfield routine a step further and crack that the losing horses’ next races would be to the Alpo factory?,” writes Lisa in her “From The Horse’s Mouth” blog (on October 24, 2009).

 

I share her indignation at the degrading performance of Rick Reilly. No question about that.

 

But her comment about Alpo reminded me of an occasion in the mid-1960’s when Clement Hirsch, who owned a pet-food business that marketed a product called “Kal Kan,” bought two yearlings at a Hollywood Park sale — and signed “Kal Kan” as the purchaser.

November 12, 2009
4:16 p.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


What a beautiful mare! Zenyatta proves that she is the best. Rachel Alexandra is a very special filly and by winning the Preakness over the boys cemented 3 yr. old filly honors and maybe 3 yr. old Champion. But I have to go with Zenyatta as Horse of the Year honors by beating the best boys in the world.

 

I hope they stop at 14 wins and go to the breeding shed with her. She has nothing left to prove.

November 8, 2009
5:42 p.m.
Doug Burge (CTBA Executive Vice President & General Manager), Arcadia, CA:

 

In response to Pat Hurley’s recent comments, the CTBA did announce in the October “California Thoroughbred” magazine the application deadline for those members seeking election through the petition process as well as a reminder to provide the ample number of signatures.

 

This deadline has recently been extended to November 26, which is 90 days prior to the annual meeting of the association. With the date of the annual meeting now confirmed for Monday, February 22, 2010 at the Claremont Hotel in Berkeley, California, this extension for submission of applications and signatures complies with the CTBA Bylaws.

 

The extension of the election deadline will continue to be announced in the “California Thoroughbred Weekly.”

November 2, 2009
11:50 a.m.
Patrick J. Hurley (Former CTBA Board of Directors Member), Medford, OR:

 

Once again, the CTBA Board of Directors is having their protective custody of keeping its members in the dark about the annual elections. I have not seen any announcement in the CTBA magazine and not on the CTBA web site and not in the CTBA weekly newsletter for any person that wants to run for the board.

 

The TOC magazine had a full page discussion on their elections for next year. The nominations close 90 days prior to the annual meeting and that will be approximately the middle of November. How is one expected to obtain the necessary signatures and submitted to the CTBA in a reasonable time schedule.

 

If it takes 25 signatures for your petition, I strongly urge any person that gets their petition in to have 30 signatures. The CTBA needs new directors for leadership.

 

I mentioned this last year and believe it or not, the following week information came out about the election.

 

The CTBA Board does not help our members who look for guidance. Look at the California sales for the last two years in Northern California and in association with Barretts for yearlings. Sellers are losing money at an alarming rate. Our breeding industry is hurting and what does the CTBA do to help us. NOTHING. The board members meet every other month and do we know how many board members actually show up? The minutes are never disclosed.

 

The board members are not helping us, and what is needed are new people on the board; but the CTBA under the guidance of Doug Burge has not given the California breeder any hope for the future.

 

Why can’t the CTBA have a venue for a sale and not depend on the Barretts sales company. The only sale a breeder has for a mixed sale is January and that will be a blood bath, with an average that will be below any in the past ten years.

 

Perhaps giving your horses to CERF is the most logical way to end your demise and suffering.

November 1, 2009
6:40 p.m.
Ginny Johnston, Tularosa, NM:

How does Barry Abrams even consider running a horse, Lethal Heat, two days in a row? It worked ok one week apart, but I have to think this is cruel and the trainer out of his mind. Of course, I could be. The mare surely cannot win both races, maybe neither. I would stick with one race and call it even. If anything happens to the mare, he will really get some heat.

 

I cannot imagine why Breeders’ Cup would allow it. But then some horses run who do not belong and they allow that. Hopefully the mare will not get into both races or Abrams will come to his senses.
October 29, 2009
5:01 p.m.
Gretchen Graves & Janet Griffin, Mad River, CA:

The “Voices” of reason regarding Cal Bred registration. Please more members voice your support for this simple change.
October 18, 2009
1:15 p.m.
Don Sandri, Hayward, CA:


Yesterday, I received simultaneously in the mail Don Engel’s plan and my Registration papers from CTBA. Had I not run down the mailman I would have been forced to go to the Post Office to retrieve said papers.

 

Don’s plan is very simple and should be put into effect. The only horses requiring identification / additional approval criteria are those conceived outside California — roughly 5% of any foal crop.

 

I can see why Don’s plan has fallen on deaf ears. The CTBA would lose thousands of dollars in Registration revenue. It would be hard to justify a $100-$125 dollar charge by just looking at the Jockey Club Foaling State Information and charge a breeder $100 dollars. That said, I would not have a problem paying a Cal Bred fee, but let’s dispense with all the unnecessary mailing of paper for no legitimate reason. Let’s take advantage of technology and create a public list of Cal Breds that anyone can view, pay a Registration fee and be done with it.

October 17, 2009
9:16 a.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:

 

Finally, more than 13 years after I first proposed a common-sense change in Cal-bred registration procedures, somebody is interested! Bless you, Sandy Nickols!

 

I searched through the files of “The TIA Newsletter” and found my original article in the August 1995 issue. It took up a full newsletter page, and that’s just too much for me to copy and post here.

 

So if you want to read the whole article and get the full explanation, email me your mailing address and I’ll make a copy of the newsletter page and snail-mail it to you. (Sorry, Sandy, I no longer have your address, so send it along.)

 

The essence of the plan is that since all registration certificates issued by The Jockey Club show the state of foaling, Cal-breds are automatically identified. Nothing more needs to be done to tell racing secretaries which horses are Cal-breds.

 

Those California foals have to be registered in order to qualify for incentive awards and to be eligible for any races open only to registered Cal-breds. They can be considered to be automatically registered.

 

The only California foals that cannot automatically be registered as California-breds are those conceived outside California. Each year that is a tiny percentage of the entire crop of California foals.

 

The CTBA can require the breeders of those few to submit proof that their dams were bred back to California stallions and thus are qualified for Cal-bred registration. A fee should be charged for that, but there’s no reason for any other breeder to have to pay a registration fee.

 

The CTBA can create a list of the handful of California foals that don’t qualify for registration and provide it to racing secretaries so they can identify the few that aren’t eligible for any race restricted to registered California-breds.

 

Simple as that. Nothing else needs to be done.

October 12, 2009
4:14 p.m.
Sandy Nickols, San Pablo, CA:


Hello Don, good to get some feedback from you.

 

I, for one, would like to know your plan. We have been at a sink or swim state for so long you would think everyone would like to hear about a plan that would reduce administration costs and help the breeder.

 

I’m all ears........

October 10, 2009
7:02 p.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


This exchange about mailing Jockey Club certificates back and forth reminds me of the plan that I proposed for Cal-bred registration that would have made all that trouble and fuss unnecessary.

 

It was an exquisite plan, and I explained it in detail twice in my old TIA Newsletter. It would have made the whole Cal-bred registration procedure so simple that breeders would have had to do nothing at all and the CTBA not much more.

 

No applications, no fees, and very little action by the CTBA.

 

The first time I was surprised when I got not a single response. I didn’t expect anybody at the CTBA to respond, since they have an overwhelming interest in keeping things the way they are. But I was surprised when not a single breeder expressed any interest.

 

The second time I suggested it, a couple of years later, the result was the same.

 

Anybody who would like to know how the plan would work can let me know by writing to “Voices.”

 

But I expect that the result will be that my score will drop to 0 for 3. It isn’t likely that I’ll have more influence now than I did, pre-retirement, when such things mattered to me.

September 30, 2009
4:54 p.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


I don’t have any idea who the powers that be are that got Joe Talamo on “The Tonight Show,” but they deserve a lot of thanks. I watched the morning workout with Mine That Bird and also the interview of Joe and Conan (see September 29, 2009 blog entry).

 

This is the thing that horse racing needs more of. Why not have trainers and owners of the big stakes winners on there. You get a chance to hear the good things about racing and not just the negative. Did you notice how Joe was dressed? Very nice suit and all.

 

I applaud them all!

September 30, 2009
4:18 p.m.
Mary Ellen Locke (CTBA Registrar/Incentive Program Manager), Arcadia, CA:


In response to Don’s question (below):

We request the original Jockey Club Certificate because we use a notary type seal to put the Cal-bred seal and number on the original certificate. This way when the horse is entered at the racetrack there is no question that it is Cal-bred. I’m afraid if we used some type of card it could easily be torn off or even put on the wrong horse.

A breeder can always send us the Cal-bred application and fee and have the Jockey Club Certificate stamped at the racetrack by one of our representatives if they worry about mailing the original.

September 30, 2009
8:27 a.m.
Don Sandri, Hayward, CA:

Just sent my Cal-Bred registration off to CTBA last week. Question: Couldn’t this registration process all be completed electronically? I don’t see why we need to mail a paper certificate in order that a seal be placed on it. An electronic seal should suffice. Perhaps I am missing something.
September 29, 2009
9:14 a.m.
Ernesto Ibarra, Baldwin Park, CA:


Hi everyone! I’ve been involved in the horse racing industry for about 7 years now. I worked at many different racetracks including Santa Anita, Del Mar and San Luis Rey Downs (for Leigh Ann Howard), in the track maintenance department, under Steve Wood. I came across this website in doing research on the web for my wife, Kellie.

 

Kellie has an extensive background in handling and riding horses. She began riding horses at the age of 4 years. She grew up in Sacramento, Northern California, around her father’s racehorses on the fair circuit; her father’s name is Sean McGowan. We recently moved down from Northern California, in an effort to establish a better life.

 

Kellie has experience in exercising horses, pony riding, grooming and handling horses overall. If anyone can give us some guidance or insights on where she can get an opportunity at a possible employment, it will be gladly appreciated. We are located in between Fairplex and Santa Anita Park.

 

Thank You!

September 22, 2009
11:51 p.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


I’m home! Good to see that Don has been on the boards. I worked for Robert Fluor during the time that Don handled all the advertising for El Rancho Murrieta. That’s where we met. I was the breeding manager there for awhile. In my files I still have some of the articles and stallion advertisements from the ERM newsletter. Remember Don?

 

I just returned from 3 weeks of fly fishing in Idaho and Montana. At times while on the lake or stream my thoughts would go to the ranch and all the little problems that occur in taking care of a farm, and since I was now officially retired, I could relax and not worry. My wife and I were sitting at a picnic table in the shade of tall pine trees watching the Yellowstone River amble down through the Hayden Valley. I said, it doesn’t get much prettier than this. But then I’ve thought about some of the ranches I’ve lived on and looking over a summer pasture with mares and foals I thought, it doesn’t get much prettier than that either.

 

I’ve been very fortunate to have been able to make a living working with horses, not to mention all the friends I’ve met. Thank you! I’ll now try to keep up with the news that surrounds us.

September 15, 2009
1:23 p.m.
Sue Greene, Oakdale, CA:


First I have to agree with Eric, our industry certainly needs more television time especially when you have a filly like Rachel Alexandra making history! This filly is one (if not THE one) filly who just might rival Secretariat with her accomplishments. This race should have been televised like any other major sport event such as golf, football, baseball, basketball or tennis.

 

Then I have to comment on the AAEP donation (see August 23, 2009 blog entry). I wonder just how many veterinarians are aware of how meager the amount was. I intend to ask my vet if she contributed to this and if not why. Maybe everyone else should also ask their vets and if they answer no or they only donated $1.50 for heavens sake why!
September 9, 2009
8:33 p.m.
Eric W. Anderson, Santa Rosa, CA:


I was amazed and shocked that while three miles from Del Mar Racetrack and 3,000 miles from Saratoga, I could not view the Rachel Alexandra Woodward on television. The residence we were in has Time Warner cable; which on their Saturday afternoon menu/guide had no mention of anything related to horse racing in the 2:30-4:00 slots. HRTV was not available on their subscribed package and TVG wasn’t offered.

 

Perhaps this is another reason our industry is shrinking. I long for the old network coverage from the Saturday sports shows. Enough football, tennis, baseball to fill numerous channels pretty much all day, yet not a 15-30 minute time slot for what turned out to be a historical moment.

September 6, 2009
5:59 a.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:

My heart goes out to the suffering Richard Shapiro. Writing that groveling letter must have been the most difficult thing he’s ever had to do. If it wasn’t, he must have led a hard life.

 

But I think he wasn’t completely honest in his protestations of remorse, at least not when he said that he just can’t understand why he did such a thing.

 

Here is a guy who’d found his family’s wealth stripped away in the Bernard Madoff mess and who’d continued to be hounded by Jerry Jamgotchian, on and on, month after month, year after year.

 

Then, he finds himself alone in the Hollywood Park parking lot and Jamgotchian’s car right there, an irresistible target…How many of us could have resisted? What satisfaction!

 

Oops! Too bad for Shapiro: Surveillance cameras captured the scene and led to his identification.

 

I don’t contend that Shapiro did the right thing. We honorable citizens all shake our heads and agree that he did a very bad thing.

 

Shapiro says in his letter that he just cannot understand why he did what he did.

 

Well, I sure do.
September 2, 2009
3:19 p.m.
Ginny Johnston, Tularosa, NM:


Oh I am so glad to see some of you are still alive. I was afraid to even look at “Voices” for almost a month since no one had written. Hello Don, Leigh Ann, Barbara, Larry, Patrick and all. So good to see something.

Leigh Ann would Illegal Plan or Western Renegade work for your babies?

I have one for my Quarter Horse foal out of Joanie Gus by Muqtarib that we want to name Money Grabber or something like that.

 

Hope you all do ok on the yearling sale. Our NM bred Thoroughbred sale was not that good but the NM bred Quarter Horses did well. We bred QH this year, wonder why. The Ruidoso Select Sale comes up Labor Day and there are the very best QH yearlings and broodmares selling there.

 

Take care. We are busy caring for the horses. What do I miss about California? Only going to Santa Anita. Again, you are all welcome to visit anytime.

August 29, 2009
9:40 a.m.
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